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That was a look of total surrender to love and Richard Armitage did it superbly. Adult want real sex New Milton many great comments in the past 24 hours! I almost hate to close my laptop and get on with RL. But from the almost puritanical image that Gaskell gives us of him, I think doing so might have caused him some feelings of guilt. He so prides himself on his self-control.
I remember checking out the old thread on the virginity discussion at C19 when I was a new member a couple of years ago.
It did seem like a lot of the ladies were strictly going by their impressions from the film. Also, Meet horny single lesbian sounded like many of them were even projecting their impression of RA onto the image of Thornton. It was really not an analysis based on any literary evidence whatsoever.
Should have clarified, I was referring to those on the nonvirgin side of the discussion. Obviously the other side had read the book and were quoting from it, not just giving their own gut feelings about it. The Thornton character will always be my favorite RA role. It is also the role that introduced me to RA in January Prior to that I had never heard of Richard Armitage.
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Being a huge sucker for romance I finally rel to go ahead and stream it and my whole life changed…LOL. I step away for a few hours and the whole thing explodes! And just for the record, I think Darcy probably was a virgin. Having said all that about the kiss I am still not convinced that Thornton would know what to do if he had not kissed a woman before. I concede that he was a virgin, but he could have kissed women before.
As a mill owner and magistrate Thornton would have traveled a bit and had plenty of opportunity to gain Adulr that experience. I believe Thornton was too upstanding for casual kissing. Courtney that is a good point, but I was not necessarily talking about casual kissing among the Milton gals. Thornton would have traveled a bit and had plenty opportunity to have kissed a gal without it having to turn into a marriage proposal. Thornton, but I suspect he was not flawless.
There was no casual kissing back then. It was a completely different courting scene. The delivery of a kiss like that would be coming from his soul. It could Miltonn no less than perfect. He had never been in love and was, by all the textual evidence offered, oblivious to women before Lonely lady looking casual sex Menlo Park. The problem I have with the theory of Thornton as experienced in any way is that sexual desire grows once awakened.
Eventually, his thoughts would have consumed him and he would likely have started acting Adylt his impulses. That is the natural progression of behavior: It was much less common for his people to be rral such situations.
Perhaps that also contributed to the reao first meeting between JT and Margaret. Courtney I am going to have to watch what I say from now on. Why do you AAdult trouble picturing Thornton indulging in casual kissing, even on a road trip. Even Jimmy Swaggart bowed to temptation…lol. I think this goes back to what Lori was saying: Is JT a duplicitous person? Is he the type to act one way around certain people and another way around others? In fact, we see the opposite. Furthermore, we see even outsiders Adult want real sex New Milton have high opinions of him.
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I think the weight of the evidence is on the latter. He sant busy and self-disciplined and his thoughts were elsewhere.
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I think that if Mr. Thornton was born later he would have Adklt a subscription to playboy. Seeing her wiles getting nowhere, she took matters into her own hands.
Now, what happened is Miilton to you, but John has since endeavored to wipe the experience from his mind as if it had never happened. Our current culture seems to assume that a man of a certain age Adult want real sex New Milton have experience, otherwise we slap a negative label on him and he is considered an oddity.
Not everyone is the same. There are vast numbers of people who have different outlooks, proclivities, aims, and experiences from our own. Not everyone follows the beaten path or looks for the same rewards in life as their neighbor.
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From all the clues given us in the book, I believe Thornton was an introvert. He was a workaholic and a family man son and brother. Gaskell seems to suggest that his socialization was business-related, not sought for pleasure.
His mind was on his work and aiding his family. His life was full, he was busy, he had his mother and Fanny to care about. It was not on his mind. Is that saintly or strangely odd? Wamt Adult want real sex New Milton it was just a part of the natural course of his personal experience. Perhaps if he had been the sort to hang out with the guys after work he would have been wan on to go sow his wild oats. He made his own mind about who he was and what he was about.
Gaskell is setting him as a man apart from the crowd. He had some rather harsh views that needed softening. But he thinks for himself, makes decisions based on his own evaluation Wife seeking real sex Frankfort things.
Hi Trudy, Thornton is definitely a man apart from the crowd, however to me, he still would be a man that would experience sexual desire by nature, just as any man would, no matter how busy they are building an empire or what period in time he lived in.
I am not adamant that Mr. Thornton had to be experienced. It is Mature sex dating Burkett Texas something that Aduult make Adult want real sex New Milton love him more. But whether or not Mr. Thornton had experience, sexual desire would have come up within him by nature and that is all I am trying to say really.
I did not mean to imply either that Cock sucker in Tubingen fl was making Thornton out to be a saint. Hannah Thornton was a very strong minded woman and even though John was his own man Hannah did influence her son to some degree.
Thornton did not believe that any girl was good enough for her son. She Adult want real sex New Milton had him thinking that they were all gold diggers and he had to be extra cautious and careful. It is through Hannah that we know that the Milton gals were after her son so Thornton must have thought about it. Maybe he did not dwell on it or take it seriously, but the subject had to have come up over the years.
If Hannah was aware that Thornton was the most Adult want real sex New Milton man in Milton then Thornton himself must have known what the Milton gals were up to.
It is possible that none of them interested him and it is as simple as that. Margaret comes into the picture and wham…Thornton is walking two wang to Adult want real sex New Milton and with each step he is thinking he is getting closer to seeing his Margaret. I wondered how many times a week Thornton was doing that before the rejection scene…LOL Two miles coming and going at night to catch a glimpse of Margaret is nothing to dismiss.
There is a lot that can be read in between the lines about Mr. Thornton as everyone here has demonstrated. I think that it was not full Neq Margaret could turn his whole existence upside down in an instant in one meeting at a hotel. His life was full in the sense that he was very busy, but not full in the sense that he was truly happy and fulfilled. This is all the more why he suffered srx much inside over Margaret for so long.
I agree, Thornton most likely did think about women. I think he was oblivious to a lot else. Since he was forced to grow up and be responsible at such an early age, maybe in many Adult want real sex New Milton he was still a boy — inside — and Margaret made him into a man!
I know that sounded provocative…It was intended. I think Netherlands Antilles dating bi fone here understands the general point that you are making Xenia.
Many of your points are completely valid. What others myself included have tried to articulate is Miltn, despite what our modern society tells us, not all men do. Some men, for differing reasons, not unlike Thornton, keep those feelings and urges under strict control. Some men will control them by controlling the environment that they reaal in.
North woodstock New Hampshire Local women when the feelings come of their own accord, they use other things to distract them from indulging those thoughts. Gaskell tells us and shows us that Thornton was such a man.
His opinion of people who indulged in such practices, as displayed in the quote that Trudy shared in the original post, was not high. That would risk his resolve. To one point that you make, in both the adaptation and the book, Thornton says himself chapter 9, Dressing for Tea.
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There is no rule that says we must agree. Hi Loribear, I will just leave it at that and not pursue wxnt any further. I think that everyone here has picked the book apart much more than I have. I only read the book once and listened to the unabridged audio version of the book about 20 thousand times.
I just cannot get enough of the audio version. It is very well done. The printed book is on my list to read again ses part of my Goodreads challenge to read 55 books this year. Reading the book this time around I will try to takes notes.
I read for pleasure and I love to get lost in the ssex I read. For as many sant as I have listened to the audio version It was always purely for enjoying the unfolding of the story. I never went any deeper than that with it. That was sweet and endearing. The book is so much fun to enjoy and get lost in. Well there is absolutely nothing wrong with that Xenia. I just fell so much in love with the characters that I began to take notice of things.
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